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6/27/2009 7:42 am Last Read: |
Today ( Saturday ) is the seventh day sabbath.......and according to those who say we must obey the law and keep it, that would mean we should not be performing any type of labor, until sunset today. That includes such things as: Carrying Burning Extinguishing Finishing Writing ( or typing ) Erasing Cooking Washing Sewing Tearing Knotting Untying Shaping Plowing Planting Reaping Harvesting Threshing Winnowing Selecting Sifting Grinding Kneading Combing Spinning Dyeing Chain-stitching Warping Weaving Unraveling Building Demolishing Trapping Shearing Slaughtering Skinning Tanning Smoothing Marking Not only are you prohibited from working, you are prohibited from doing anything that will cause the following people work. Your children Any employee or person who would serve you (this includes any stranger who would serve you). Any animal you own. Any non-Jewish person in your home. What was the penalty for violating the Sabbath ? " Say to the Israelites, 'You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people. For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.Exodus 31:13 -15 Question: If today is the Sabbath..... why then is Claudia so busy typing ( writing ) several new post today ? She is in violation of the very law; she is telling everyone else they must keep. Not only is she working she is causing others to woke by respond to her post. Now should she be put to death, for violating the Sabbath ? No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7 |
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6/27/2009 9:09 am |
It does not say anything about prohibiting "communication"- in any from now does it? In fact- if we TYPE for PROFIT that would be WORK not relaxation. Yer list is not only BOGUS- it a sin all to itself TO JUDGE ANYONE ISN'T IT? Fool.  SO just as JESUS SAID- Ye do er in what yer saying here. If a person can not SPEAK- is it a SIN to use sign language on the SABBATH then too ya frickin pharisee? Loser. Ya spit venom but ya are SPITTING ON JESUS -- no one else. =) lunatic.No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 9:27 am |
It does not say anything about prohibiting "communication"- in any from now does it? In fact- if we TYPE for PROFIT that would be WORK not relaxation. Yer list is not only BOGUS- it a sin all to itself TO JUDGE ANYONE ISN'T IT? Fool. SO just as JESUS SAID- Ye do er in what yer saying here. If a person can not SPEAK- is it a SIN to use sign language on the SABBATH then too ya frickin pharisee? Loser. Ya spit venom but ya are SPITTING ON JESUS -- no one else. =) lunatic.God gave me beauty 4 ashes, oil of joy 4 mourning, & the garment of praise 4 the spirit of heaviness
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6/27/2009 9:47 am |
Back in high school days, two twin girls in town were accepted for Air Canada flight attendant training. A few days before training began they quit. It seems mean, bad, nasty Air Canada had the nerve, the gall, the audacity to expect them to work on a Saturday!!! How silly. I work for a large national company that operates 24/7 every week, every month, every year. It's normal for me to work on Saturday, Sunday, holidays. Will I be banned from heaven for being a prompt, faithful, reliable worker even on weekends? I walk by faith. Nothing more. Obeying man made religious rules does not, and will not save me. Mom always said... "If it ain't broke, date it."
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6/27/2009 10:20 am |
Gordy.......you and Claudia are the ones who insist that everyone keep the law. But you two are the BIGGEST VIOLATORS OF THE LAW !! Sabbath observance restricts all forms of labor except acts of mercy. Although my child could be in the same room with me, and we could communicate verbally, if I were to write a note and pass it to my child to read it, I would be in violation of the law. Makes no difference if I'm being paid for it or not. What Claudia is doing cannot be construed as an act of mercy. She is not rescuing ( or protecting ) the sheep, she is instead throwing them to the wolves. Some think its Ok to lie on the Sabbath, and I'll bet you're one of them. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 10:31 am |
Carrying------- Nope. If yer beast is in a pit- with a broke leg no less- yer justified to carry it out of the pit and to safety. Jesus told ya that- DIDN'T HE? Also we are not to carry goods from one place to another. That does NOT prohibit "carrying everything" as you poorly defined word shows here. But that does not make it ok to make the other beasts plow for ya or carry their harnesses etc. Burning ------ yup. Ya do not purposely do a fire so ya can cook on it, burn trash etc. That does not however prohibit ya from starting a fire before the SABBATH big enough to last THROUGH THE SABATH without tending it- as in "relaxing bonfire" outside that ya sit around for fellowship and worship/honoring God with songs etc during the dark hours after sundown on Friday. Yer just too much of a pharisee to understand JESUS is all.  Extinguishing ---------- Nope. If yer neighbors house is on fire- yer a sinner and do not love yer neighbor if ya DO NOT HELP PUT IT OUT. Finishing ------ define "finishing"- since that could be almost anything. Writing ( or typing ) Nope. There is no prohibition there at all. NONE. Erasing ---- Nope. No prohibition in context of "writing". Cooking----- Yep. Supposed to make enough the day before so ya don't have to do that on the sabbath. Washing---- washing what? Too broad a term to even know what yer talking about. Ya CAN WASH YER HANDS and that is not prohibited- but not yer clothes- etc. Sewing For profit- correct. For pleasure- not prohibited. Tearing ---------- what would ya be tearing? MIGHT be prohibited if DEFINED as to what yer tearing- Knotting --- for what purpose? to help get the beast out of the pit? Nearly ALL of yer words here are NOT PROHIBITED under certain conditions... Untying----------- nope. wrong if yer beast from the pit needs untying after removal from the pit Shaping ---- a nonsense word that has no prohibition since unless it is for PROFIT it is not prohibited You can shape a childs education in the scriptures but then you failed to DEFINE yer meanings Plowing prohibited Planting prohibited Reaping prohibited Harvesting prohibited Threshing prohibited Winnowing prohibited Selecting ---- Nope. Not prohibited - too general a term without definition. You can SELECT a single or multiple children out of your surroundings (and not others ) to come sit and listen to ya teach and selecting would then NOT be prohibited Sifting prohibited Grinding prohibited Kneading prohibited Combing Nope. Not prohibited if a child needs HAIR combed for some reason- but then again- the word has several meanings- define it. Spinning prohibited ------ unless done by children- as in on a toy of some sort Dyeing prohibited Chain-stitching prohibited IF FOR PROFIT not relaxation Warping etc etc etc Weaving etc etc etc Unraveling etc etc etc Building Prohibited Demolishing prohibited Trapping Prohibited Shearing Without cause- prohibited. But if the sheep is stuck in the thorns and thistles- you can loose it and not be "shearing" for profit- Slaughtering prohibited Skinning prohibited Tanning As in tanning leather- prohibited Smoothing Too broad a word to be all inclusively prohibited Marking - again too broad of a word As we can all see- Some things are indeed prohibited based upon the idea of work vs rest. Yet Jesus and The Father showed us what the word WORK didn't mean. Jesus also showed us LEGAL EXCEPTIONS THE THAT IDEA OF WORK- as well as helped define REST. Part of the reason the pharisees had such strict interpretations as they DID- was because they didn't want to take chances in defining something as OK that God would then JUDGE THEM HARSHLY FOR. Jesus showed us that GOD IS NOT STUPID. But MEN ARE. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 11:45 am |
Hi, here's some scripture: Galatians 5:22-23 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:16, 5:18, 5:25 16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. And here's more: Romans 7: 7 7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet." No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 12:18 pm |
Yup. yer wanting to play word games here- that is why your list was so ambiguous. As for "correcting someone" I didn't TRY to correct anyone I SHOWED THESE FOLKS READING HERE THAT YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG TO BEGIN WITH. As for being an EXPERT- I believe JESUS WAS ONE- and HE CORRECTED YOU BUT YOU PISSED ALL OVER HIS STUFF HERE AGAIN. Screw you satan- yer no different here than ya was in the garden. YA REALLY THINK FOLKS CAN'T SEE YER STUPIDITY NOW? Loser. Looks like you missed that one too. Somebody get a big rock !!! No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 1:44 pm |
The part about "not writing a note"- FALSE DOCTRINE. But even if it were NOT FALSE DOCTRINE- WE WOULD KNOW IT WAS PROHIBITED AND NOT DO IT. Yer just as STUPID as ya ever was godlesscook. I DO know the LAWS as it is WRITTEN OUT FOR US AS WELL AS ON THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO FEAR AND OBEY HIM. But you go on and keep telling folks NO ONE CAN KEEP THE LAWS. Of course not- THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT GOD'S LAWS ARE OR WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT NOR DO THEY CARE. Just like YOU. IGNORANT LOSER.  No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/27/2009 4:37 pm |
Nope I'm NOT Jesus- But JESUS SAID- "easy and light" and that what HE DID WE CAN DO AND EVEN BETTER THAN HE DID. HE KEPT THE LAW AND SAID I CAN TOO. SO I OBEY HIM and follow HIS WORDS AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. EASY AND LIGHT. YA NEVER SIN AND YA NEVER MAKE EXCUSES LIKE YOU HAVE TO. I DO know the LAW and DO Obey them PERFECTLY. Jesus said I could. And I BELIEVE JESUS- not an IDIOT SINNER LIKE YOU. I LOVE IT when you equate ME with YOU and say I CAN NOT DO WHAT YOU CAN NOT DO. You CAN'T DO IT CUZ YOU WILL NEVER OBEY GOD IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU EVEN SAY YA DON'T HAVE TO OBEY AND THEN TRY TO TELL ME I'M A SINNER FOR OBEYING GOD. Go cut and paste for us where I have EVER SAID THAT JESUS NEVER HAD TO SAVE ANYONE. Cuz I NEVER said that and I have NEVER BELIEVED THAT. For You to make such a scurrilous SUGGESTION EVEN is to PROVE THAT YOU ARE FULLY SATANIC. HE's the one telling ya that kind of CRAP and YOU KEEP REPEATING IT. Howscome? Ya SAY yer SAVED- yet YA DO NOT DO WHAT JESUS SAID TO DO. SO yer a FRAKKIN LIAR about BEING SAVED AND ABOUT THE LAWS OF GOD. Only SATAN would EVER LIE THE WAY YOU DO. Just as the BIBLE SAYS- IF YA SIN YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. Lets REPEAT IT SO YOU GET IT STRAIGHT- IF YOU SIN YOU ARE OF THE DEVIL. And YOU- you CONFESS WITH THAT MOUTH OF YOURS THAT GOD CAN NOT KEEP YA LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD. Yer more than HAPPY TO BRAG THAT YER A SINNER WHO WILL NEVER QUIT. AND YA TRY TO TEACH OTHERS THAT IF THEY DO NOT SIN THEY ARE SINNERS TOO ANYWAY. HUH? IF I DO NOT SIN I AM STILL A SINNER BY OBEYING GOD PERFECTLY IN HIS CARE AND KEEPING????? Only SATAN would ever try to get God's people to believe THAT TRASH. Ya frakkin SATANIST. God saved me through HIS SON JESUS. I don't NEED to be "saved" by an asshole satanist who TELLS ME GOD IS GUNNA WINK AND PAT ME ON THE BACK IF I STOP OBEYING HIM AND BECOME A SINNER ALL OVER AGAIN. Yer so utterly full of CRAP that it's a wonder you can breathe. I NEVER said "I CAN SAVE MYSELF" and never WOULD say it OR think it- BUT LOOK AT YOU TRYING TO IMPRESS YOUR SINNER BUDDIES HERE- EVEN SUGGESTING I'D SAY SUCH A THING. Yer just STUPID, DECEPTIVE ON PURPOSE and fully satanic is all. Ya can LIE ALL YA LIKE- and I will NEVER believe anything other than what JESUS ONLY AND ONLY JESUS SAID, DID, AND IS. Member that part there ya old forgetful satanist? "JESUS ONLY AND ONLY JESUS". You ain't even whale slime- not even TRYING to be a "good decent CHRISTIAN" can't even BE a good decent CHRISTIAN BY YOUR OWN CONFESSION. Satan OWNS YA- and ya teach nothing BUT what SATAN TAUGHT FIRST. "DISOBEDIENCE to GOD'S LAWS IS RIGHTEOUS NOW SO DISOBEY ALL YA LIKE- GOD WILL FORGIVE YA NO MATTER WHAT THE LAW SAYS. Ignorant loser. Stop with the you can too. No one can do what Jesus did. Jesus' sole purpose of coming to earth, was to save men ( you can't even save yourself ). How did He do it ? He fulfilled the law on their behalf, and shed His own Blood to guarantee the forgiveness of their sins. You are nothing more than a BIG FAT HYPOCRITE ........A SELF RIGHTEOUS FOOL. You accuse everyone else of being sinners, and just as the Pharisee who prayed about himself " God I thank Thee that I'm not like all other men.." you will not be justified. Only the humble, those who beat their breast, and confess their sin, will be justified before God. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:20 am |
I just banned Gory aka Gordy ( I'm sure he'll reappear as someone else ).....its useless trying to communicate with him, he continuously lies, twist what others say, is disrespectful , vulgar, attacks the character of others and is a blasphemer. I should have banned him long ago, but I was letting him make a fool of himself for all to see. He's a devil for sure and I hope that I was at least successful at exposing him as such. If I have offended any innocent bystanders while attacking him, please forgive me. Even though I called him a few names.......I never became vulgar ( I managed to keep my language clean ), as I attempted to give him a taste of his own medicine. Gordy seems to get a kick out of using foul language. Surly, the Spirit of God has never taken control of him ( or her ) , because Gordy clearly can't control his own tongue. Again, if I have offended anyone ( with the exception of Gory ) please forgive me. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:31 am |
It's almost beyond belief it's been twisted around that now godly cook is the one accused of teaching law and works for salvation? And now is even being accused of saying that his laws are better than God's laws? And just to put a cherry on top of this wonderful concoction of lies he is accused of teaching he is fully responsible to teach us how to get to heaven because Jesus didn't do good enough a job? It surely would take a very sick and offended carnal nature to take offense at the things godlycook has posted recently about the grace of God. You know, the disrespect on a personal level in this forum is unreal. And you know, godlycook has posted some things occasionally here that I didn't agree with. But due to the constant vicious attacks by these scripture twisters everytime he posts anything, it has made it impossible for me to raise any questions in a civil manner without confusing the post even more and making it seem at the time that it's an addition to the attack. And I also observe that when he posts something about God's grace according to the word of God he is attacked by these, who's carnal, fleshly natures are offended by God's grace. And their attacks are designed to attack the grace of God by attacking godlycooks flesh. You see, the word of God tells us that the Spirit wars against the flesh and that the flesh is at enmity against the Spirit. And that is what's been going on in this forum. You know too, that as christians, when we see a brother stick his neck on the line for the truth of the gospel of the grace of God and see him being attacked, we SHOULD take our stand with him for that gospel. I for one would like to make a publick stand for this man and his courage to come here against all kinds of fleshly opposition, and say that I stand with him in the truth of the gospel. The gospel that states that no man is justified in the site of God by the law. The gospel that tells us that ALL men are sinners and stand guilty before a holy and righteous God. The gospel which was given and revealed to the apostle Paul which tells us of a salvation that is ours AS A GIFT from God. The gospel that tells us that believing Jesus Christ and trusting what he did on that cross, dying for the penalty of our sin and in exchange GIVING us HIS righteousness in EXCHANGE is the ONLY thing that makes us acceptable in and to God. godlycook : I think that some here are trying to get you to sink to their level of name calling and personal insult to discredit you. But not only you but to discredit the truth of the gospel. But stick to the word. Don't fall into their temptations to bring you to their level of being a brawler. And who knows? Someday we may be able to come to a place where we can discuss and have a civil exchanging of ideas in this marketplace of ideas. Wouldn't that be refreshing? Grace and Peace to you godlycook and to all that are trusting in our Lord's precious blood that he spilled to pay the price for our sin. Praise the LORD our Father for sending His Son......Glory to our KING. Amen. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 8:33 am |
1Th:5:8: But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 1Th:5:9: For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Th:5:10: Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1Th:5:11: Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. 1Th:5:12: And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; 1Th:5:13: And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 1:08 pm |
My name is Steven ( or Steve ). I've been called other names ( as you can tell ) and expect it will continue. Followers of Jesus can expect to be called many things. I just put up a new post in response to Claudia. God bless you Mike. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/28/2009 4:08 pm |
I've been called other names(as you can tell) Oh man, that is just way too funny. You made me laugh out loud here with that one. Count it glory. Count it glory !!!!!! And don't let them ever steal your sense of humour. Grace and Peace Steven No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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6/29/2009 6:21 am |
its hard for you to kick against the goad.. Deut 30: 10-20.... he will give us new hearts.... without the use of a magic wand..
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8/1/2009 6:14 pm |
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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